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Two Arrested After Making Criminal Threats

Livermore police make a pair of arrests after Oakland residents threatened a man who refused to purchase items they were selling at a Target parking lot.

Two people were arrested after threatening a man who refused to purchase items they were selling at the shopping center parking lot, Steven Goard said.

The incident occurred just before 6 p.m. Friday when a man called police to report he was harassed and threatened by two males.

The man, who was waiting for his wife, was inside his parked vehicle with his child.

He told police the suspects approached him and offered to sell merchandise he was not interested in, Goard said.

However, the sellers did not take no for an answer and demanded he purchase the unknown items, which sparked a verbal argument.

"They then threaten to hurt him and motion underneath (clothing) that they have a gun," Goard said. "He thought they were going to hurt him and end his life."

The suspects then flee the area as police were responding to the call, Goard said. An officer spots the pair in a vehicle stopped at the intersection of Las Positas Road and North Livermore Avenue.

The suspects then blow past a red light, prompting the officer to report back to police dispatch a "high-risk stop." The officer turns on his siren and flashes his lights to pull the suspects over, Goard said.

A high-risk stop is a multi-unit response where there is a possibility of a high risk of danger, Goard said.

"It's the safest way to bring someone who is potentially dangerous back to us, especially if we have some sort of knowledge there may be a heavy level of violence or weapons involved," Goard said.

Residents who witnessed the high-risk stop Friday posted the following descriptions on Livermore Patch's Facebook page:

6 officers with guns drawn on a vehicle at Las Positas and Livermore. Intersection is blocked South bound. Just got through going North bound and ducking for cover. —Lori Hallam Ferriter

...never seen that many cops with their guns drawn... My heart is pounding having been driving right by that, in the opposite lane.. Scary —Jennifer Hill Hoobing

The suspects were compliant in the stop and no weapons were found, Goard said. The two were arrested on suspicion of making criminal threats.

Police were unable to provide names or ages of the males arrested at the time of this report.

Kim Addington March 06, 2012 at 09:01 PM
We are going to have more of this when bart comes to Livermore
Kelly Hendrickson March 06, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Sadly, I agree.
LvrmoreRob March 06, 2012 at 09:26 PM
More what, exactly? Crime? People from Oakland? The fear mongering over BART coming to our little village is hilarious...
Cory Noltensmeier March 06, 2012 at 09:26 PM
Please that is such an asinine statement. BART is in Pleasanton and Dublin, they are doing just fine. Those people drove here, we will have more of that if we make cars affordable.
Bill March 06, 2012 at 09:26 PM
Agreed as well. The benefits of BART are where?
Cory Noltensmeier March 06, 2012 at 09:35 PM
Ya what is more of this? Black people? Oh no black people might come to Livermore, because BART is their only form of transportation. Ignorance is Bliss. I know if I was a criminal I would want to ride public transportation to go commit it, rather than drive my own vehicle so I could get out quick.
B March 06, 2012 at 10:04 PM
why you bringing up black people in this?
Paisley March 06, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Maybe because when people talk about the increase of crime in town, they always phrase it like "Bart will bring more of those undesirable types from Oakland". I hate how kneejerky people are about race, but it does sound definitely biased. Crime comes from everywhere. Not just Oakland.
Paula March 06, 2012 at 10:27 PM
I too was approached by two men in the parking lot at Target. Before they could reach me. I turned around and glared at them. As I was leaving, I noticed a lone woman in the parking lot who was about to be approached by these men who were wearing layers of sagging clothes. I pulled my car in front of hers. When she was safely in her car, she mouthed the words, "thank you". I'll admit it was intimidating. But with that also comes a defense mechanism. When in a situation like that, you have to let them know, youre not scared, hold your head high but never take your eyes off them. The men were uncomfortable with my glares. They retrieved and pulled their hoodies over their faces as if they didnt want me to recognize them. The Livermore police said they were going to be watching drivers in the city for safety violations. Why not watch our streets for vile people who want to harm their citizens. While the police are watching out for broken tail lights these thugs are coming into our city and harassing us.
Paula March 06, 2012 at 10:36 PM
Bart isnt in Livermore. It's a 10 mile drive to get to Livermore from the Bart station. Livermore is a nice sleepy town.Bart will ruin our nice little community. Sometimes bad people get stuck in a town and have to get off the train and theyre stuck here until they can find a person to rob. So no thank you and sorry if I don't wan that happening to the town Ive lived in 30 years.
Cory Noltensmeier March 06, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Paula do you have blinders on? Have you had them on for almost 30 years? I think you need to wake up. Your sleepy little town as you call it has some hardcore gangsters living in your backyard. Funny how ignorant people are that have lived here for 30 years. I have lived here since 2002 and know that. Wake up it's already here, not going to get worse or better because of BART. I brought up black people because crime is there stereotype, and the article said from Oakland, if it had said crime from Walnut Creek, I can guarantee the reaction would not have been the same as from Oakland.
LostinTranslation March 06, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Well, some of you seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room ---- GANGS ---- and BART did not bring them here. Case closed. Livermore residents have paid millions in taxes for BART, and it was promised to us many years ago. Think about the cost of fuel associated with driving our cars, not to mention the environment. I agree with Paisley that crime indeed comes from everywhere. Let's not point a finger at any one group or a particular area or town.
Paisley March 07, 2012 at 12:01 AM
" Sometimes bad people get stuck in a town and have to get off the train and theyre stuck here until they can find a person to rob." Really? Why would they get stuck here when I see people handing the homeless money - all the time. Or are you suggesting they travel two hours from Oakland, then be in so much of a hurry they can't take the time to put out a sign like the rest of them. Why rob when everyone is just handing out money?
DeAnna Senft McDaid March 07, 2012 at 01:26 AM
This statement is 100% correct. If you bring bart to Livermore for my sake and the sake of my children keep it on the freeway. Let the losers bus to down town. If it costs money they most likely will not travel down town. Let the BART police take care of BART problems we have enough "town" crap for our skeleton LPD as it is.
::thumbs up:: March 07, 2012 at 01:45 AM
I would rather pay twice the amount of gas that I currently do than have BART in Livermore. People here are right, although it makes life easier for SOME residents, the likelihood of crime will go up, not necessarily by race, but I think more so by age. Younger people tend to ride BART as an alternative to not having a car. BART will bring undesirable from all parts of the Bay Area, not only Oakland. BART IS BAD FOR LIVERMORE! Just like that stupid outlet mall.
Lifetime Livermoran March 07, 2012 at 02:33 AM
Let's hear from some Pleasanton/Dublin residents about Bart and crime, and ask the police department for statistics before and after Bart...everyone will see the real truth. One of the most memorable murders occurred on 580 in Dublin, man shot in his car and the suspect fled on Bart....months after opening? Move to where Bart stops if you want to catch Bart, we don't want it here!
George Fay March 07, 2012 at 03:13 AM
Believe it or not, some people may be offended by such a blantant statement of words. People are very sensitive to words such as rape. What I think you mean to say is that you are concerned that undesirable elements from a nearby, decaying urban environment will come to Livermore in order to commit criminal acts upon our fine citizens that are of a different socio-economic demographic.
Lori Johnson March 07, 2012 at 05:51 AM
Paula, if you are as concerned about crime in Livermore as you sound, I expect you called your incident into the police after it happened, right? I suspect you did not because it sounds like the gentleman with the child was the first person to report it to the police. Had you reported it, the gentleman and his child may not have had that happen to him. If you are really concerned about crime in Livermore, you may want to start helping deter it now, rather than later, when you think BART will bring it to Livermore.
EBHC March 07, 2012 at 06:30 AM
Our neighboring BART station just made the list for one of the highest rates of bike theft: http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/bike-theft-rise-bart-stations-14522
Speedie B March 07, 2012 at 06:02 PM
These undesireable elements from a nearby, decaying urban environment may end up with unauthorized use of a bicycle to get to the Target parking lot if BART were located at 84 or Greenville, since it would be too far to walk.
meanman March 08, 2012 at 05:29 AM
you smart arent very people!
MagnusT March 08, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Apprehending hoodlums is work. You have to actually drive out, spend some time looking for the suspects that match the description, then you have to detain and question them and, if it seems like they did something wrong, you now have to arrest them (oh god) and fill out all kinds of paperwork. What a hassle! On top of that, there's nothing really in it for the basic patrol officer (except for the paperwork). No bonus, no meeting their quota for traffic citations, etc. It's just a big hassle that gets in the way of their real job, which is to entrap people in roadblocks--ostensibly to check if they are wearing their seatbelts--so they can rake in the fines and fees associated with towing and impounding someone's car because it doesn't have a colored sticker on the license plate. All they end up doing with common thugs is driving them down to Santa Rita to warehouse them--taxi drivers! Cops don't like to be taxi drivers, especially if there's no fare to collect when the ride is over and the destination is reached. When the choice is between doing the things that will save your own job and pension vs. actually doing your job, what do you think most people (cops or otherwise) in this depraved society will choose?
MagnusT March 08, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Kurt, would it make any difference if they were white crackheads? A crackhead is a crackhead, no matter the color. Or as Chris Rock so eloquently stated it: "There are black people, and then there are..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
Bryon Bruce March 08, 2012 at 08:07 PM
I can not wait for bart to get here, will be a great plus to our town. Downtown will be a great site.
John Campbell March 09, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Maybe our bad guys will take BART from Livermore and go to Oakland to commit their crimes against humanity. Livermore is end of the line, you can't get stuck here unless you want to get stuck here. As far as the new station in Pleasanton the crime is so bad in that area I can hardly justify taking myself to Hooters. Hahahaha
j t March 10, 2012 at 03:49 AM
I know , Oakland is such a wonderful city, great place to raise a family,very low crime rate.
Cory Noltensmeier March 10, 2012 at 11:04 PM
John I see your point, I like to stay away from Hooters and that crime infested area they call Pleasanton. I don't want those people coming to Livermore to commit their crimes here. Stay away you Pleasontonites. lmfao
Lori Johnson March 11, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Kurt, you are a prejudiced moron. Does Genentech know you are this prejudiced? The world has enough problems without prejudice coming into play -- get educated.

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