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UPDATE: Police Pursuit Ends in Crash

Police on Tuesday morning found additional suspects hiding in a trash can and in a residence's backyard.

A suspicious vehicle spotted by an officer unexpectedly took off, sparking a short pursuit that ended with a collision and a search for suspects near the Portola Glen neighborhood, Livermore Police Lt. Matt Sarsfield said.

At around 10 a.m. Tuesday, a patrol officer reported a suspicious black Buick at the 3600 block of Montrose Place, near North Mines Road.

The vehicle sped off and an officer initiated a pursuit that followed the vehicle down Highland Street and onto Portola Avenue, Sarsfield said.

The pursuit ended when the driver of the Buick attempted to make a right turn onto Edinburgh Drive, from Portola Avenue, and crashed into a concrete wall.

The driver of the vehicle suffered minor injuries and was taken to a hospital. He was arrested on suspicion of evading police, Sarsfield said.

While additional officers responded to the pursuit, police were told that two additional suspects were outstanding and set up a perimeter along Edinburgh Drive from Portola Avenue to Highland Street.

Both suspects were found — one inside a trash can and another inside a nearby backyard, Sarsfield said. The two males were detained and taken back to the Livermore Police Department for questioning.

No other injuries were reported and the incident is under investigation.

Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 04:13 AM
I doubt that you would be the one to put me there, "DJ", because you would not want to risk the criminal charges and punishments to put me there. In addition, should you ever threaten me, not only would I see to that you get the charges, especially under California Penal Code, Section 653m, but I would also like to file civil suits against you. Just because you hide under a false name does not make you immune to all-too-real prosecution and litigation. Besides, if I did it, you wouldn't even know it was me, let alone anybody else. ID Theft can even be done outside of the country, where there would be very little recourse you would have. And for all you know, your ID may have already been compromised, with a swipe of a plastic card in an ATM or even a card reader. There are folks out there all over the world who pull this information from wherever they get it--from banks, from restaurants, where you get your gas, where you buy your groceries, where your kids even go to school if you have them, and if you served, even from the Veterans' Administration, who occasionally send out notices when one of their laptops go missing and you get the postcard telling you that your information was on that laptop. And all the threats, posturing and bluster is not going to stop that. When it comes to ID Theft, you may never know your accounts have been compromised until long after the thieves have pillaged your accounts and moved on to somebody else.
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 04:22 AM
So when you have a plan to don your robes, burn crosses and conduct lynchings, don't announce that here. Not sure what your obsession is with the color of somebody's skin and the crimes they are accused of committing, but your race-baiting is getting very old and tiresome. Perhaps you need to air your bigotry and race-hatred somewhere else. Given that this is the world-wide web, there may be plenty of sites to go to if you enter terms like "white power" or "white racist sites" in the search bar at Google or Bing, or even Yahoo! if you are so inclined. But given that even the Livermore City Government and the Chamber of Commerce peruse these pages here on Patch, I would wager that they are not very fond of the racial hatred spewed on these pages, because it is not a fair or even flattering representation of Livermore.
Trancelifer October 10, 2012 at 05:20 AM
For those who believe that crime is not already everpresent in Livermore I've got news for you. Recently retired and somewhat of an insomniac I can tell you there are opportunists cruising Portola Glenn at all hours of the day and night. I've witnessed random individuals driving the neighborhood at 5 miles and hour at 3 am looking into every yard and garage stopping from time to time to check something out in your yard. I've seen lowriders at 2pm driving through the neighborhood and stopping at every mailbox with the flag up. Had my house burglarized not 3 years ago - with the LPD telling me "should have had an alarm". Check out the LPD website showing a map of Livermore Burglaries last year. Something they should be advertising but dont.
Tony in Livermore October 10, 2012 at 05:33 AM
I'm new to Livermore; just moved here two weeks ago. So good to see the community come together and cheer these officers for a great effort at stopping these thugs in their tracks! I'm from LA and this sort of story is commonplace, but in Livermore people get up in arms and won't tolerate this kind of activity. Bravo to the LPD and to all the folks supporting them in this thead! I love this place!!
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 05:39 AM
https://www.crimereports.com/ Once on the site, enter "Livermore, California" in the field by the [SEARCH] Button. Once the page is loaded up, you may have to move the bar on the right up so you can see all of the city. If you want to look at specific crimes, you can also use the filters you see by clicking on the [Incident Layers] Button. Click and enjoy. Not every city does this. Be grateful that Livermore and Dublin do.
libertus_rebelium October 10, 2012 at 05:47 AM
Give it up, Darwin, your absurd BART argument just isn't holding water, these guys are here without BART. How the heck would they haul a big screen TV on BART, duh! The problem is not putting these guys to the fire. See people like this, call the police. If they come in your house, shoot 'em. If they go in your neighbors house, do something about it.
CRGATG October 10, 2012 at 05:52 AM
Looks like the guys who robbed Chase Bank on vasco rd. Last week!
CRGATG October 10, 2012 at 05:53 AM
Looks like the guys who robbed chase on vasco Rd., las week
Mr. Pickles October 10, 2012 at 06:28 AM
Hey @fornicated: at least the suspects got outside and did something today. More than you can say about yourself.
Mr. Pickles October 10, 2012 at 06:39 AM
@fornicated: We will not give it a rest until you move out of your mothers house and move back to Oakland. Some people commit more crimes than others . Men commit more crime than women. Unemployed people like you are apt to be criminals. So get a job.
Mr. Pickles October 10, 2012 at 06:53 AM
@fornicated: This is all you did today. Sit on you ass to preach to us with your know-it-all dribble. Get a job move out of your parents house, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and make something out of yourself. Contribute to society and work.
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 07:18 AM
When you give it a rest, Mr. Graham Cracker Crumb, I will give it a rest. Until then, sir, I could less what you think. Afterall, I am firmly convinced that all this crime that Livermore is following you out from where you are working these days. For all I now, you may be giving them rides in that pickup truck you have parked out front on the curb. Perhaps this "Oaklandization" you like to speak of begins and ends with you.
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 07:38 AM
Life is way too short to be bantering with you back and forth, Mr. Graham Cracked. From what I have seen of your life out there behind the trailer park, where the RV homeless park their vehicles and where the public storage facility sits, you seem to be depressed--even more so than me these days--and that all you want to do is pick on me when you think you can do so. You have revealed that you are indeed a small man with a small mind to match, sir. And I doubt that kicking me around is not making you feel any better. Instead of picking on me, why don't you do something more constructive with what little time you have left and perhaps go out to your parents' house and do some repairs on that house in the cul-de-sac? It would probably do them a world of good and make your old man proud of you. The satellite dish on their roof looks like it will come of when the winds come through next month.
Robbin hood October 10, 2012 at 07:56 AM
@ALEX why are you so excited about this kid havin his pants down? Odd that you didn't manage to get a close up of his face but DID manage to get close ups of the front and back of his entire crotch area.....hmmm.......
Daniel Graham October 10, 2012 at 08:55 AM
@fornicated: It sounds like you know where I live. Should I be worried for myself and my family that you are stalking us?
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 09:08 AM
Well, when somebody is foolish enough to post under their own name, it does open them up to the possibility that somebody else will be able to track them down and even trace their movements. But I have bigger concerns, Mr. Graham, I have a life and I have some paying gigs I have to tend to while looking for my next permanent gig. The way I see it, Mr. Graham, you are more of a waster of time and not much more, sir. I have better things to do than chase around some inane poster on the web who seems to have nothing better to do with their life other than post such negative comments, especially when they are neither constructive nor substantive. And besides, there really is no telling that the poster posting as "Daniel Graham" really is a person named "Daniel Graham" and that there may be several people out there posting as "Daniel Graham" and possibly spoofing accounts. Even if I find out that the person posting as "Daniel Graham" really is a person named "Daniel Graham", there are chances that I may have the wrong person tracked down given that there are other people bearing the name "Daniel Graham" out there. It's all a circular argument between you and me at this point. At least I was wise enough to post behind a moniker that is not my name, but that's me. As for any real "Daniel Graham" out there, I would be more concerned over people using his name for their own purposes, which may not work well with the real Daniel Graham's image and reputation.
Daniel Graham October 10, 2012 at 09:13 AM
@fornicated: Once again, do I have to worry?
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 09:23 AM
Mr. Graham, You only have to worry if you are the real Daniel Graham out there posting under your real name. You don't need to worry about me, sir, but you may have to worry about others out there who may be intent on doing you harm based on what you have said to them and about them here on these pages. So if your real name is indeed Daniel Graham, and you are posting here as "Daniel Graham" on these pages, you might need to show more concern about your safety online, especially if there are other posters out there spoofing their account as "Daniel Graham" and doing so with the intent of destroying the real Daniel Graham's reputation and public image. But I'm not going to go out of my for way any Daniel Graham out there, real or spoofed. It would require way too much time, effort and even other resources that are better spent doing something more worthwhile. In the meantime, it's way past my bedtime and I really should be calling it a night for now. But perhaps you should consider that if your account may have been spoofed out there so that there are multiple people out there posting as "Daniel Graham", those people better hope that the real person named Daniel Graham out there is not offended to the point that he fears that his real-life reputation and public image have been harmed to the point that they could be detrimental to his livelihood and his safety given what "Daniel Graham" has posted here on this site. Good luck, though.
Jim Chu October 10, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Hey Kris, can you do anything about warning or maybe temp banning some of these users who are violating the Patch TOS with their ad hominem posts? I read the comments to get more information, not listen to their petty squabbles. See the following post by Darwinian Justice and the replies for an example.
Shakes Jake October 10, 2012 at 03:44 PM
I see many people commenting about a sheriffs department helicopter or police helicopter. There are no police helicopters currently operated by any department in the area other than CHP. East Bay contracts their chopper out to local departments when needed, however that was not it on Tuesday.
Roger V. Tranfaglia October 10, 2012 at 04:02 PM
We have voted in the First BLACK man to be president of the US of A (regardless of his politics) and these twits continue to pull this crap!? SHAME! SHAME ON YOU!!
Daniel Graham October 10, 2012 at 04:14 PM
What's the matter @fornicateus? Didn't have words to retort on this one?
Bob Canning October 10, 2012 at 10:56 PM
My comment is that if you do not use your real name, then you are ashamed of your opinions. Name calling and stereotyping do not add anything to a conversation. How about reasonable ideas on how to prevent crime or any of the other myriad of societal issues?
Robert October 10, 2012 at 11:04 PM
Kris-do me a favor and clean up some of this back-and-forth crap going on here! Thanks
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 11:26 PM
And if you use your real name, you run the risk of having the rest of your life put up to scrutiny. Especially if this particular "Bob Canning" is the one who sits on the Livermore Opera Board and that there may be questions about that board's conduct with getting a "big opera house" here in Livermore. Would you want all of us to flood your phone lines, clog up your voicemail, exhaust both toner and paper on your FAX machine in response to what you post here? To me that doesn't make sense and may turn into several legal fights trying to regain your name and your reputation because it was maligned here to the point that it was damaged and you could no longer trade on it or earn a living by it. It is also our First and Fourteenth Amendment rights under the US Constitution to post as we see fit providing we are abiding by the rules by which we agreed to post. But when you have others out there that see fit to abuse, by name-calling and maligning us, I would rather that it be my screen name that takes those kind of hits than my real name. And for all we know, "Bob Canning" may not even be your real name, either, given that anybody can set up an account and use "Bob Canning" as a screen name. All they would need to do after that is just answer back from an e-mail sent to verify the account. And if that were from a gmail account, it might even get more convoluted finding out who the real person is posting behind "Bob Canning". Protect you reputation!
Trevor Tooze October 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM
I agree that BART cannot be blamed for crimes in Livermore at this time, but it is a known fact that crime increases when a BART station is put into service. Everybody does not steal big screen TV's
Alex Dourov October 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM
What are you talking about?
Californicated1 October 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM
Mr. Tooze, So if we looked at the statistics that were put up for crime statistics that the Dublin PD put up for https://www.crimereports.com, then comes the next question, how much of that crime was actually due to BART? From what was reported yesterday, there are a cluster of car break-in's around the West Dublin-Pleasanton Station, and hardly any from the East Dublin-Pleasanton Station. And then there also comes as what is classified as "theft" in these reports, because there is one near the East Dublin-Pleasanton Station where if you click and get the details, at the corner of Dublin Boulevard and Dougherty Road, it is where somebody kited a bad check, so that crime may not be tied to BART but to somebody else. Too bad the Pleasanton Police Department does not post their statistics to this site. I would think with how the west station was tied to access to Stoneridge Mall you may find that there is a cluster, but given that it is a shopping mall that has been there before BART ever was, it may have already been a cluster of thefts and break-in's, especially around the holiday season.
George Fay October 11, 2012 at 12:38 AM
Kirk, seriously, do you really think they are etheopian royalty?
Californicated1 October 11, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Besides, when it comes to fake names, and even posting behind them, it is steeped in American History, especially when it comes to spreading views that may not be all too acceptable by everybody around them. For instance, 'Poor Richard's Almanack' was always authored by "Richard Saunders". It wasn't until after he died that it was finally confirmed that "Richard Saunders" was indeed Benjamin Franklin himself. Francois-Marie Arouet wrote all of his treatises under his pen-name, Voltaire, for which we know him best. And when they were written back in the 18th Century, they were highly offensive and subversive. Samuel Longhorn Clemons wrote under "Mark Twain", and much of his writing still is controversial to this day. And like Clemons, who traded on his fake name, John Irving Bloom trades on his fake name, "Joe Bob Briggs". Besides movies, he also comments on everyday life. Sometimes there is a reason to have a fake name, especially when you want to enjoy your privacy as a regular person. Marion Michael Morrison traded and performed under "John Wayne" and Norma Jeane Mortenson is "Marilyn Monroe". And then there are situations where you may be known for one thing, like Stephen King, for his horror stories, but publishes his non-fiction under "Richard Bachman". As for posting under an assumed name, it's actually our right, even under The Law.

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