Several times in the last few weeks I’ve actually jumped from the sound of low-flying airplanes coming into the at night.
The sound rocks the house for just a few minutes as the fly-folk decide that it’s OK to disrupt others with their loud engines flying in a bit too low for my tastes – knowing there isn’t a darn thing anyone can do about it beyond placing a complaint or waving a fist in the air.
Both have about the same impact.
I’ll admit there appears to be fewer planes flying into the airport these days – probably the result of a bad economy and high fuel costs – but there’s still an ongoing problem with pilots who have little regard for quiet time.
Even more unsettling are two summer incidents that remind us how close we can come to tragedy.
On Wednesday night, a pilot and his passenger made an at the airport. The landing gear failed, and the plane’s wing was severely damaged during the landing, which required the services of emergency crews.
In June, a plane looped during a landing attempt and the
And in May 2010, a Piper Cherokee plane took off from the Livermore airport, clipped a treetop and crashed on a hill. Two people died in , although no one on the ground was injured.
Accidents happen. These three incidents don’t come close to what dangers lurk on the freeways. Yet the potential for a catastrophic disaster is more likely with airplanes involved. It’s a location where pilots are trained, therefore adding to the potential for mishaps.
And when you can’t even get pilots to respect noise guidelines, you wonder what else is being ignored. The problem with the Livermore Municipal Airport stem from a feeling of helplessness when it comes to something as simple as getting pilots to be more courteous when coming into the airport.
And for those of us living in the flight paths, we wonder if those loud noises and late-night disruptions are coming from seasoned pilots or trainees. Is it just the noise we need to worry about, or the something more?
On Wednesday, I heard a plane coming in a little too low about the same time as the landing incident. I have no idea if the loud, low flying plane was the one in trouble, or just some person who swooped a little too low coming in for a landing.
What I do know is that it makes me nervous.
The one thing I thought we had some control over was keeping the noise down during the night. Unfortunately, there isn’t a single punitive thing people can do about the noise coming from personal aircraft, and more likely, business jets flying in at all hours.
The airport has no control over aircraft once the craft is airborne because then it becomes the business of the Federal Aviation Administration. It is not within the City of Livermore’s power to impose noise-related regulations, curfews or penalties to those pilots who want to rattle windows during normal sleep times.
But that doesn’t mean that the airport staff can't nicely ask them to stop. They call it a “Voluntary Restraint from Night Flying” policy that respectfully requests pilots to avoid flying between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. You can call in your complaints at 925-373-5050. Or you can even go online.
The staff then dutifully places the information into reports. They notify the FAA of those individuals who keep offending. And supposedly, the FAA issues a more stern response.
But the bottom line is that there are no teeth to the bite.
So we can wave our fists, file our complaints and move on with our lives. And hope that the worst thing residents have to endure will be a few loud noises.
You go, girl!!
There is just such a restriction on our airport. I love aviation so my heart is sympathetic to solving its problems. The problem is accelerated rapid changes thrust upon community airports. For the past 15-20 years home buyers are told of airport operations before buying. But that's a mere glimpse into a snapshot of time. Airport uses are under major, vital, powerful, politically seductive, constant energy to evolve, modernize, and perhaps worst of all, now facing common place small transport, transition over to jet-turbine power. Quieter props are suddenly all replaced by noise jets. Big Metro airports and aircraft manufactures lobby for airports to accommodate just a few more feet of runway, just a few more, just another little bit more until voilà, little Orange County Airport is then morphed into a destination of choice, with scheduled daily service. No elected official I've ever met can resist those pressures. The airstrip in Carmel Valley perhaps being the only exception I've seen, and they have Monterey as their back up. Scott Valley said no to their old airport and sold it off to real estate development. Get political candidates to agree to rewrite airport mission statements around the Federal Grant money to press for quiet engine technologies and you create political legs to seriously get out ahead of the issue.
People never cease to amaze me.
If any aircraft flies in after 10PM and before 6AM please call 925 373-5050. This needs to be recorded in the complaint log. You do not have to give your address or name.
Or if a brush fire on the hill is encroaching on homes and the CDF planes land at Livermore to refuel (instead of having to fly all the way to Hayward), don't be whining about the airport then. The Livermore Airport provides jobs, tax revenue, is the home base for many emergency organizations, provides local entertainment (WW2 planes on Memorial Day for example), brings in business people into the Tri-Valley, etc. We are lucky to have it. If you don't want to listen to the planes land, don't live under their landing patterns.
What exactly is a "quiet flying technique" - turning off their engines as they approach the airport and gliding in? Are you a licensed pilot in addition to being an expert in city government? I just said that if people are going to call the Livermore Airport hotline and complain about a noisy plane overhead that you should make sure it's actually landing at Livermore. Goodbye, a local citizen, you and I can agree to disagree on almost everything.
Cannot can be spelled both ways. You can not say that's incorrect.
You make the statement, "Even more unsettling are two summer incidents that remind us how close we can come to tragedy." I wonder how small aircraft with a problem with it's landing gear could possibly be a "tragedy" for the nearby residents? As for the plane that ground looped, do you even know what that is? Again, this is an event that happened upon landing and local residents were in no way in danger. And last, obviously, you did not even take the time read the link about the Cherokee in 2010. It DID NOT depart from Livermore. It took off from Auburn and was enroute to the San Carlos airport. The NTSB did not find any mechanical issues with the aircraft and this accident was pilot error. Yes, pilots make mistakes. I truly feel though you are safer from the airplanes above, than the distracted and drunk drivers that abound on the roads. It is a shame that more articles are not written about all of the good the pilots do by donating their time and fuel to introduce children to aviation through the EAA and The Young Eagles, by flying a cancer patient to their treatments through Angel Flight or, by flying rescued animals to safety through Wings of Rescue.
I love aviation and my heart is in helping address its problems. I think the noise issues and airport management philosophies are huge, important issues for the upcoming elections. I'm glad Susan dared to charge in where angles fear...... Scores of outlying airports have a choice to organize to reach solutions that serve human daily needs in our normal daily living as well as business and emergency response. Getting a community on board starts with a revised airport mission statement that circles the great corporate energies back upon corporate America to rethink and elevate their investment priorities to meet our human daily living essentials through quiet engine technologies and enhanced short field and take off designs. Congressional candidates only then align with common community residential interest. We do not have to settle for yesterday's science. Turn politics around on itself and start a movement.
To Rich -- Airport noise is old news. The airport was here long before most residents moved into the pattern. Get over it. My response targeted to Susan's claims over "how close we can come to tragedy." I hate drama and how it incites people that just do not understand.
American Exceptionalism, http://tiny.cc/td1p4 unleashed to design and develop quiet engine technologies for fast, long range, and short range craft with short field take off and landing designs is my path to freedom. The starting point for me is not to roll over and accept all changes to the airport imposed by outside corporate powers of unknown origin, as a good thing. That one dog barks does not justify allowing any number of dogs to be brought in to bark; that one power plant is approved, is not an okay for any power plant modifications to be deployed. One car being repaired is not a moral or legal approval to bring in any number of vehicles for repair. The politicly irresistible forces that drive the dynamics of our local airport constantly change and must be kept focused with a high priority assigned on what works for those who carry the burden of change. Amend the airport mission statement to join forces with other airports to push for hyper-quiet engine technologies.
This is an "Opinion" article. It clearly states that at the top of the column. As a columnist they may use their personal opinion. If they are assuming a role as a reporter they will be objective, cultivate sources for what they report and be unbiased It amazes me how many people reading the Patch miss the word "Opinion" at the top of the article.
Aircraft passenger. Aircraft Owner. Flight Instructor. Over 60% of all noise complaints at KLVK come from a single home in Pleasanton! An opinion would be "I hate people who do anything I don't". But when so-called opinion is corrected by facts, they should be changed. - There is no such thing as a "jet port". - There are no "low flying" aircraft at Livermore (KLVK). They climb at Vy=MAXIMUM rate of climb. They can't climb any faster. They generally turn off well before getting to the first house in Pleasanton. - The traffic pattern is 1000' above the ground. The primary pattern is over Costco, where there are no homes. The secondary pattern to the south is inside Stanley, over the gravel pits. No homes. - Standing at the street, right next to the airport, the aircraft noise is not loud. It certainly can't "shake the house" thousands of feet below a plane. If you bought double pane windows you probably wouldn't even hear them at all. - Pilots are not in wanton disregard of your peace and quiet. It is simply not possible to alter their behaviour in any what that would please you. We cannot land any other place besides the airport. We cannot park the plane in the sky and climb up and down to embark or disembark. - If you are coming home from visiting your relatives, you get home when you can. You don't stay at a hotel for another night, missing work the next day, etc just to arrive in the alloted time set by Susan or Rich.
- A ground loop is about like your fender-bender. Just a landing mishap. It endangered no one but the pilot. - The couple killed when they hit the hilltop near Byron had nothing to do with Livermore or Pleasanton or the airport. They endangered no one but themselves. They flew low and into a cloud, then the hilltop. There are a half dozen such crashes by cars on nearby Altamont Pass every day, which actually do endanger other drivers. Maybe ban cars? - I once got a complaint letter about landing after 10pm. I had pulled the engine to idle while at 11,000 feet, in a small 4-seat Cessna. Gliding all the way to the ground. No noise at all. This proves that the complainers are actually just reviewing online flight logs and then filing the complaints.
Do you teach or talk to your students about quiet flying techniques? Again, this is an Opinion column not a reporter's column. Two different things.